{"id":3186,"date":"2025-11-04T15:19:52","date_gmt":"2025-11-04T15:19:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/codata.org\/blog\/?p=3186"},"modified":"2025-11-04T16:01:13","modified_gmt":"2025-11-04T16:01:13","slug":"ode-to-loi-legal-and-organisational-interoperability-data-moves-at-the-speed-of-trust","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/codata.org\/blog\/2025\/11\/04\/ode-to-loi-legal-and-organisational-interoperability-data-moves-at-the-speed-of-trust\/","title":{"rendered":"Ode to LOI (Legal and Organisational Interoperability) &#8211; Data moves at the speed of trust"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><i>Reflections on Legal and Organisational Interoperability at IDW2025 from Matti Heikkurinen, LOI Lead and Project Portfolio Manager, CODATA<a href=\"https:\/\/codata.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/matti-pic-idw.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-3187\" src=\"https:\/\/codata.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/matti-pic-idw.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"939\" height=\"626\" srcset=\"https:\/\/codata.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/matti-pic-idw.jpg 939w, https:\/\/codata.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/matti-pic-idw-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/codata.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/matti-pic-idw-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/codata.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/matti-pic-idw-624x416.jpg 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 939px) 100vw, 939px\" \/><\/a><\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I\u2019ll start with a confession: until quite recently, whenever I heard the word \u201cinteroperability\u201d, I thought of the ability of any two systems to reproduce the same bit sequence across a connecting medium (wire, fibre, or airwaves). Formidable challenge, when you consider all the possible combinations of network vendors, device types, software stacks, noise, hardware failures, and human factors at play. But the engineering community has developed standards and processes to test technical interoperability through protocol analysis, plugtests, fault-tolerant software and hardware, among others. The <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Northeast_blackout_of_2003\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">blackouts<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> are rare, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Morris_worm\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">worms<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> usually stay in the cans, and Cloud outages <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnet.com\/health\/sleep\/owners-of-luxury-smart-beds-literally-lost-sleep-due-to-aws-outage\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">shouldn\u2019t cause insomnia<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> (we hope).\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">MoUSLA \u00e0 la r\u00e9alit\u00e9<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Travelling towards Brisbane, I had a high degree of trust in the technical and semantic interoperability of the aircraft components, backed by <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Byzantine_fault#In_aviation\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Byzantine Fault tolerance<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. I was less certain about finding pure algorithmic solutions or engineering approaches to provide complete solutions for the topics of the <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/idw2025.org\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">IDW 2025<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> session at the destination: <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/scidatacon.org\/event\/9\/contributions\/66\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Legal and Organisational Interoperability (LOI)<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. This covers the ability of organisations not only to exchange information (Technical interoperability) and understand its meaning (Semantic interoperability), but also use the shared meaning to achieve mutually beneficial goals (Organisational interoperability) in a manner that defines and complies with the relevant legal basis for data sharing (Legal interoperability).\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/codata.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/image0.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-3188\" src=\"https:\/\/codata.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/image0.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" srcset=\"https:\/\/codata.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/image0.jpeg 640w, https:\/\/codata.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/image0-300x225.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/codata.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/image0-624x468.jpeg 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Two randomly connected organisations are unlikely to reproduce the same policy decisions, given their unique governance models, legal frameworks, and standard operating procedures just because they can reproduce bit sequences sent by the other party. Nevertheless, organisational and legal interoperability are crucial to society, and mechanisms to achieve mutually beneficial goals have been developed.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Memorandums of Understanding (MoUs) and Service Level Agreements (SLAs) have received significant attention as promising solutions for these challenges. And indeed, they do provide formal components to support and document Organisational and Legal interoperability. However, one of the motivations for the session was the (possibly controversial) view that, even if the agreements themselves were fully machine-actionable, they wouldn\u2019t guarantee interoperability. They are the fiber-optic cables of LOI that need infrastructure around them to become operational; MoUs and SLAs are the desserts, not the whole meal.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">CAREless whisper &#8211; Guilty machines have got no rhythm\u00a0<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The opening plenary put any worries about the fit of our session topic to rest. The talks covered different aspects of indigenous data governance (presented in more detail in <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/codata.org\/blog\/2025\/10\/28\/when-care-meets-reality-reflections-on-indigenous-data-governance-at-idw-2025\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">another blog<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">), covering the different aspects of the <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.5334\/dsj-2020-043\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">CARE principles (Collective benefit, Authority to control, Responsibility, Ethics)<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. The interesting weak signals in the session were the immediate pushback on governance models that were seen as too simplistic and the mutual benefits of adhering to CARE principles based on the <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.saamicouncil.net\/news-archive\/soda-prinsipper-2gsec-22l7f\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">SODA<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> principles. The latter seemed important from the sustainable CARE point of view; ethics backed by enlightened self-interest tends to be much stronger LOI component than ethics alone.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The broader context of the LOI issues were covered by several other sessions and talks: the session on <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/scidatacon.org\/event\/9\/contributions\/65\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cIncreasing Resilience of Global Earth and Environmental Science Data Supply Chains\u201d<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> brought new kinds of hazard scenarios into the spotlight, the RDA plenary session\u00a0 <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rd-alliance.org\/members\/ingvill-constan\/plenary-participation\/?application_id=187202\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cBalancing ethical considerations and Open Science principles when sharing community relevant data\u201d<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> presented the challenges in determining when sharing &#8211; or collecting &#8211; data might do more harm than good.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cOur\u201d session &#8211;\u00a0 <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/scidatacon.org\/event\/9\/contributions\/66\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cLegal and organisational aspects of data interoperability: climate adaptation case studies\u201d<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> &#8211; included talks and discussions that were thought-provoking without exception. Some of the highlights included:\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">O(N<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">2<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">) challenge of sharing environmental data in Australia: nine jurisdictions, multiple overlapping laws, inter-state data exchange requiring compliance with federal and different state legislations (Kheeran Dharmawardena, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/ardc.edu.au\/program\/australian-dataspaces\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Australian Dataspaces<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">). Kheeran\u2019s presentation included a table comparing different regulations in the Australian context.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Legal and organisational interoperability in the <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/ardc.edu.au\/people-research-data-commons\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">ARDC People Thematic Data Research Commons<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> (Adrian Burton, ARDC). Adrian described work in the ARDC People Commons and the wider <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ohdsi.org\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">OHDSI-OMOP community<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> to establish specific terminologies for sharing agreements and consent.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Urban research combining high-value (including high commercial value) and sensitive datasets (Pascal Perez, Director, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/aurin.org.au\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">AURIN<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">). Pascal emphasised the importance of detailed agreements among participating organisations that deal with specifics in a way proportionate to risk and consonant with benefits.\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Thanasis Sfetsos\u2019s presentation of the Urban Heat Island use case of the <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/climate-adapt4eosc.eu\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Climate-Adapt4EOSC<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> project, described the enablers for organisational and legal interoperability that have been identified in the initial analysis.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Supporting CARE principles using <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raid.org\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">RAID<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> and local contexts (Rebecca Farrington, Director of Research Data Systems, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.auscope.org.au\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">AuScope<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">), including the use of specific metadata to allow the retrospective application of usage conditions.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The session could perhaps be summarised by Adrian Burton\u2019s quote from the first day of the event: <\/span><b>\u201cData travels at the speed of trust\u201d.<\/b><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">LOI Interoperability &#8211; Fade to (shades of) grey?<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Reading the above summary, one might wonder where the FAIR data community should focus its efforts amid the growing number of data-sharing scenarios that no longer clearly fall into the binary \u201callowed-forbidden\u201d categories? Will the response to critical hazards be hampered by the need to put the benefits and risks on a scale with an arbitrary (and context-dependent) approval line? Should we just reinforce and expand ethics boards to cope with the growing challenges?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Personally, I would argue that growing awareness of the need to operate in this \u201cgrey area\u201d makes it more important to develop semantic frameworks and tools to describe CARE issues. Humans undoubtedly need to stay in the loop, but robust, consistent methods for describing the issues are crucial for making decision-making efficient, consistent, and CAREful. The work of initiatives such as <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/cdif.codata.org\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">the Cross-Domain Interoperability Framework (CDIF)<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> and <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/climate-adapt4eosc.eu\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Climate-Adapt4EOSC<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> received a major boost at the IDW, with the idea of reviving the <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.5281\/zenodo.162241\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">RDA-CODATA Legal Interoperability IG<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> gaining considerable support. As a result, we hope to observe and report an <\/span><b>increase in the speed of trust at IDW 2027!\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">References<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">F. Schiller, L. van Beethoven: <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Jg3sEE18WsE\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ode to Joy<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">N. Lawson: <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nigella.com\/recipes\/instant-chocolate-mousse\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Instant Chocolate Mousse<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">G. Michael et al: <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=izGwDsrQ1eQ\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Careless Whisper (Official Video)<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">J. Gum et at: <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/scidatacon.org\/event\/9\/contributions\/65\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Increasing Resilience of Global Earth and Environmental Science Data Supply Chains<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">L. Bezuidenhout et al: <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rd-alliance.org\/members\/ingvill-constan\/plenary-participation\/?application_id=187202\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Balancing ethical considerations and Open Science principles when sharing community relevant data<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Burton et al: <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/scidatacon.org\/event\/9\/contributions\/66\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Legal and organisational aspects of data interoperability: climate adaptation case studies<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Visage: <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=UMPC8QJF6sI\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Fade to Grey<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">World Fair CDIF working group: <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/cross-domain-interoperability-framework.github.io\/cdifbook\/introduction.html\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Introducing CDIF<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Reflections on Legal and Organisational Interoperability at IDW2025 from Matti Heikkurinen, LOI Lead and Project Portfolio Manager, CODATA I\u2019ll start with a confession: until quite recently, whenever I heard the word \u201cinteroperability\u201d, I thought of the ability of any two systems to reproduce the same bit sequence across a connecting medium (wire, fibre, or airwaves). 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